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Hound's avatar
Feb 9Edited

I don’t think MAGA is a culture. MAGA is more like a herd of immoral creatures. Culture can change because it changes. Cultures are based on beliefs and traditions.

MAGA are not people that simply have a similar mindset. They are people who know right from wrong but choose wrong. Their people who know the truth from a lie but they choose the lie.

Hypocrisy is not a culture. Hypocrisy is a moral failing.

Anti-truth is not a culture. Anti-truth is a moral failing.

Protecting Pedophiles Is not a culture. Protecting pedophiles is a moral failing. Clueless brainwashed liberals like to blame right wing media such as Fox News for why we have MAGATS. But it is the other way around. Fox News was created for the MAGATS. There is no arguing that.

Carole's avatar

Just take off the -ure part and then it’s the right label- MAGA is a CULT

Hound's avatar

They certainly are cult but they were called of their own doing. Trump knew what they were before they were called MAGA because they are the kind of people who swim in his waters. He knew that they would be easily manipulated and he knew that they would pretend to leave his lies.

When Trump said that he could shoot somebody on fifth Avenue and still not lose votes and when we found out that was true it became very clear to me at least what Trump supporters were really all about. They prefer depravity because they are deprived and deplorable and they will never be anything but depraved and deplorable.

Jason Merchey's avatar

Ok, subculture then. But if motorcycle gangs and drug circles are subcultures, then MAGA could certainly be characterized as one.

Hound's avatar

I know more than a little bit about motorcycle gangs. Those guys are all a similar mind set and that’s what brings them together. They are not members as a result of any particular philosophy. They are a mob. It is who they are. Not all of them are horrible. Other than dealing drugs, partying and terrorizing people they’re not really much of a menace to society. For a lot of them it’s like a family. They have each each other’s backs and unlike a MAGA they have a sense of honor.

Sometimes they’re enough words to describe certain things.

The outlaw biker has some honor. If they know you and they like you they will show you some loyalty out of a sense of honor.

MAGA has no honor. When Hillary Clinton said they are a basket of deplorables, she was 100% right and she should have doubled down on that truth.

Anip4287's avatar

FART -- Free America Remove Trump

Saw this on a post somewhere. I'm going to get a red hat with this

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Hound's avatar

The old time conservatives were never a threat to democracy.

There was a time when I would vote a split ticket because I base my decision on who is the most qualified to serve. Sometimes that was the Republican and I didn’t have to put a clothespin on my nose when I voted and I didn’t think I was voting for the lesser of two evils. I was voting for the best person for the job.

Eisenhower was a republican and he was probably the leading member of antifa. Think about it.

Russ's avatar
Feb 9Edited

Not to take away the good of Eisenhower. However, he did nothing to rein in Joe McCarthy. He did as much damage to America as Trump is doing today.

For those who do not know history, McCarthy divided the USA. In his feeble mind, there was a commie on every corner. Even when there wasn't, his accusations ruined many lives and brought the US to its knees.

McCarthy's lawyer was Roy Cohn, who became Trump's lawyer. Concidence???

Hound's avatar

Good point. Even as a general Eisenhower was too diplomatic. He should’ve let General Patton destroy Russia when Russia was weak and before Russia had a nuclear weapon. Patton told Eisenhower that we were going to have to fight Russia eventually and that is what happened and that is what is happening now.

Russians collectively are not good people. Patton knew it and he was not afraid to say it. Russians are dishonest, brutal, barbaric and without honor. This probably explains why Trump loves Russia, Russian hookers and Putin.

I just posted an article about the depravity and treachery of Russia and Russians.

https://lowee2855.substack.com/publish/posts/detail/187443670/share-center

Russ's avatar

When you treat people like trash this is what you get, barbarians. Russians know the country is a mafia state. Dog eat dog. If the rich could get away with it here, some (not all) would turn us into domestic servants. The current batch of billionaires have no shame. Workers are to be paid as little as possible and CEOs as much as possible.

There is too much money running loose in the USA. Football players become instant millionaires. Stock market, bitcoin wealth spits on the common man and pays less taxes. Yet our schools, roads and bridges are falling down. Healthcare is based on income, not need. So much for the richest country.

Hound's avatar

I think Americans are too cowed and too Brainwashed to even know who the enemy is. The Republican plan has always been, divide and conquer and distract and steal. The comedy denominator is wealth.

I think sometimes when somebody get their ass kicked when they act like an asshole They’re being taught a lesson in humility. I doubt if too many members of the billionaire class ever got in a physical fight. I’d like to be able to conduct an experiment On these predators. I would administer a psychometric test a determines their mental health and personality types and personality disorders. Then I would like to beat the shit out of them and terrify them for six months to a year. Put them in the octagon with a professional MMA fighter and let that guy just beat them senseless and terrify them. Then I would like to inject them with a drug that causes unrelenting panic.

After the therapy is complete I would like to test them again a year or two later and see if they are still Sociopaths and narcissist.

If Trump had gone to public school you can bet a lot of girls would’ve beat the shit out of him And so would a lot of the boys. He would’ve been incredibly humiliated and it is my theory that humiliation creates humility.

KS's avatar

With this shift in sentiment we need to start looking for what a post MAGA world looks like. We are not willing to go back to the bare minimum. I want all democrats in Congress to get together to make a list of the 10 items they will do when they have control. Then talk about it on repeat. A clear concise unified message.

Hound's avatar

There can never be a post MAGA world as long as MAGATS exists. Trumpism is not so much an ideology but a way to groom and manipulate already morally depraved people. This is Hitler 101. The frightening differences, white Southerners are more deprived than the German people who really were hoodwinked by Hitler and his mob. They actually didn’t think Hitler was that bad and they were hurting because of the treaty of Versailles that punished Germany and the German people. The Germans gave a lot to culture and technology. They have always had redeeming values. The same cannot be said of the MAGAT who would bring back slavery in a heartbeat and shouted in unison “HANG MIKE PENCE“ has the maimed and murdered police officers.

Richard's avatar

Everything Trump touched dies. University, steak, casino etc

Carole's avatar

…gold high tops…

Matt Morris's avatar

The Trump dance... is that when you poop your pants?

Jason Merchey's avatar

Well good, because MAGA culture is really very objectionable and caricatured. The only thing they could say in return is that mainstream American culture--or the way that greed dominates the land, and injustice plagues us--was nothing to hold up as being "a city on a hill" either.

Deb Conner's avatar

What would be a literal GIFT would be to wake up and discover that the Dems have found their balls…and are now prepared to forcefully fight against the repugs….which is what they should have been doing all along.

Carie's avatar
Feb 9Edited

The world could burn down to the ground and Republicans would still be fussing over their seats in congress.