The only way to pass a MAGA "loyalty test" is when they ask, "What do you think about that?" your answer must be, "I don't know. Please tell me what to think, and I will believe it with all my soul!"
Politicians in America and so-called journalists are in it for the money. It’s the biggest whore has been Fox News. They pander to the ignorant scum of the Earth. We can say that Fox News brainwashed its viewers and that might be true but we can also look at it a different way and simply say that the viewers poisoned them. It is a sick symbiotic relationship but I have to think when you’re measuring the scum factor, Fox News viewers are worse than the reprehensible slime that ruins their mouths on Fox News.
The MAGAT is not brainwashed to the degree most people think. They know they’re being lied to and they happily spread the lies to the more gullible MAGAT. They also have a cult mentality not dissimilar the snobby elitist academic liberal types. If I had to choose who I would prefer as a neighbor it would be the elite snob liberal type because they tend to be more law abiding and more capable of critical thinking.
If we are the people who value truth and values, we should acknowlege it whoever speaks it.
By declaring you do not agree with everything they say, you stop any confusion that you are now soul-mates. Even a complete jerk can speak the truth, and a good person can speak something that is wrong, dangerous, false.
I have been friends with people who I disagree with on many issues, does not mean I need to hate them. People are complex, so are issues. When dealing with issues, let us focus on THAT issue, and not conflate any agreement to more than that issue.
This is not hard, it just requires thinking as opposed to strictly emotionally driven reactions.
Wars are easy, all you have to do is be emotional enough to react to something that is not violent, with violence. Congratulations, you have a war. Wars don't need to be with armies, we have lots of political wars. The violence does not have to be physical.
You want to destroy Trump? Easy, get more people to THINK and apply their values and self interests. You will NOT get them to THINK by focusing strong negative emotions at them.
For a moment, let us give MJT the benefit of the doubt: She found a line she could not cross, like most of the people in Trump's first administration. Since she came to realize Trump was not who she thought he was, or even just that she could no longer support him (because with Trump it is all or nothing) she could start seeing, and talking about the other areas where she could not support Trump. Would I trust her with delicate policy issues, or even a congressional seat? Not yet. People can change, but even sudden change takes time to fully shift the person into how they will become.
Anyone who would support Trump or ever supported Trump has no moral values. Sad but true. Can you imagine if when Obama was running for president if he said the dirty filthy pig things that Trump said, what would’ve happened to Barack Obama.
The Democrats have always been the lesser of two evils. If Obama acted like Trump and done the things Trump had done like cheat on all of his wives he would never have become a senator or at any kind of career unless he had become a republican.
Republican leaders are what they are because of their base. It’s not about conservative or liberal, because if a moral, hard-core conservative were to run in a republican primary against your typical MAGAT, the voters would reject the moral conservative for the lying scandalousMAGAT Republican.
Never underestimate the impact of stupidity, emotions and 'identity' causing people to make very poor choices. Each of these can be mitigated over time when reality grabs them by the throat and slaps them silly. I am willing to let people learn.
Yes, there are certainly those who are filled with rage and fear, insecurity and shame who will find it especially hard to learn how to THINK. Most will choose to hold onto their hate rather then put in the effort.
Much of what you described though are not the MAGA voters, it is the media which HUNGERS for conflict, drama, rivalry, NEWS!!!... such that Obama wearing a tan suit becomes a headline. Think how deprived (and depraved) they had to be to focus on that as a story, as a scandal! Trump however gives them more newsm or drama, conflict, rivalry Scandals and NEWS than they can possibly handle, so they only focus on the biggest news, and even then they have to cycle it out quickly as a NEW news item comes into view, and what Trump does daily is so terrible, it DEMANDS attention.
If a voter sees and endless stream of accusations on Trump, and Trump is accusing everyone else... and NONE of the issues seems to stick around very long, people tune it out and believe what they want to believe.
Start listing ALL of Trump's crimes and other wrongs online, publicly, as the list grows. Put them into categories and provide evidence, with context.
It will become HUGE and a newsworthy event by itself, especially as it keeps growing. Make it easy to access (no paywall and no donation requests or ads) and as impartial and factual as possible. Trust me, that will be MORE effective than any emotional ranting when people come to look at it.
It not only makes the case that Trump is worse than just his latest newscycle, worse than just the economy (though that will be it's own category) and help people to see him for what he is rather than just the latest sound bite.
It will also act as the foundation for a strategy to make this next impeachment 'Stick'. Basically, charge him with ALL of his crimes, ALL of his abuses of power, ALL of his violations of oath, ALL of the various reasons declared constitutional for removing a president. Every last one of them. There are ways to make that type of impeachment stick, but not if we do it like we did before.
I think people like Tucker, MTG and Megyn Kelly were seeing the rating on the wall and the collapse of MAGA. They’ve seen the end fighting among them. They wanna cultivate an audience. But here’s a thing about MTG, Trump made not so veiled death threats to her. She’s leaving the country or perhaps that’s what she’s saying. I believe that she’s telling the truth when she said Trump wants to do harm to her son. I think of the three of them MTG has the most sincerity and is not saying much.
They are all complicit. You can wear a cross or a plaid shirt to signal to your base that you are ‘one of them’ but as ever, follow the money. The fact though that a sitting president threatens death for disloyalty is a complete repudiation of the office.
The "cut a liberal and a fascist bleeds" crowd is oddly eager to support MGT despite the fact that she is a white-nationalist authoritarian; She was laughing in support during January 6th 2021 and probably wanted AOC to be lynched by delusional Q-Anoners. Populists seem to support ANYTHING no matter how flawed as long as it's allegedly anti-establishment. Yet AOC is also somewhat culpable as she has platformed Hasan Piker, one of said purity testing leftists, who has a long history of terrorist sympathies, autocrat defending, and libel (similar to Trump and his thralls).
The only way to pass a MAGA "loyalty test" is when they ask, "What do you think about that?" your answer must be, "I don't know. Please tell me what to think, and I will believe it with all my soul!"
Politicians in America and so-called journalists are in it for the money. It’s the biggest whore has been Fox News. They pander to the ignorant scum of the Earth. We can say that Fox News brainwashed its viewers and that might be true but we can also look at it a different way and simply say that the viewers poisoned them. It is a sick symbiotic relationship but I have to think when you’re measuring the scum factor, Fox News viewers are worse than the reprehensible slime that ruins their mouths on Fox News.
The MAGAT is not brainwashed to the degree most people think. They know they’re being lied to and they happily spread the lies to the more gullible MAGAT. They also have a cult mentality not dissimilar the snobby elitist academic liberal types. If I had to choose who I would prefer as a neighbor it would be the elite snob liberal type because they tend to be more law abiding and more capable of critical thinking.
If we are the people who value truth and values, we should acknowlege it whoever speaks it.
By declaring you do not agree with everything they say, you stop any confusion that you are now soul-mates. Even a complete jerk can speak the truth, and a good person can speak something that is wrong, dangerous, false.
I have been friends with people who I disagree with on many issues, does not mean I need to hate them. People are complex, so are issues. When dealing with issues, let us focus on THAT issue, and not conflate any agreement to more than that issue.
This is not hard, it just requires thinking as opposed to strictly emotionally driven reactions.
Wars are easy, all you have to do is be emotional enough to react to something that is not violent, with violence. Congratulations, you have a war. Wars don't need to be with armies, we have lots of political wars. The violence does not have to be physical.
You want to destroy Trump? Easy, get more people to THINK and apply their values and self interests. You will NOT get them to THINK by focusing strong negative emotions at them.
For a moment, let us give MJT the benefit of the doubt: She found a line she could not cross, like most of the people in Trump's first administration. Since she came to realize Trump was not who she thought he was, or even just that she could no longer support him (because with Trump it is all or nothing) she could start seeing, and talking about the other areas where she could not support Trump. Would I trust her with delicate policy issues, or even a congressional seat? Not yet. People can change, but even sudden change takes time to fully shift the person into how they will become.
Anyone who would support Trump or ever supported Trump has no moral values. Sad but true. Can you imagine if when Obama was running for president if he said the dirty filthy pig things that Trump said, what would’ve happened to Barack Obama.
The Democrats have always been the lesser of two evils. If Obama acted like Trump and done the things Trump had done like cheat on all of his wives he would never have become a senator or at any kind of career unless he had become a republican.
Republican leaders are what they are because of their base. It’s not about conservative or liberal, because if a moral, hard-core conservative were to run in a republican primary against your typical MAGAT, the voters would reject the moral conservative for the lying scandalousMAGAT Republican.
Never underestimate the impact of stupidity, emotions and 'identity' causing people to make very poor choices. Each of these can be mitigated over time when reality grabs them by the throat and slaps them silly. I am willing to let people learn.
Yes, there are certainly those who are filled with rage and fear, insecurity and shame who will find it especially hard to learn how to THINK. Most will choose to hold onto their hate rather then put in the effort.
Much of what you described though are not the MAGA voters, it is the media which HUNGERS for conflict, drama, rivalry, NEWS!!!... such that Obama wearing a tan suit becomes a headline. Think how deprived (and depraved) they had to be to focus on that as a story, as a scandal! Trump however gives them more newsm or drama, conflict, rivalry Scandals and NEWS than they can possibly handle, so they only focus on the biggest news, and even then they have to cycle it out quickly as a NEW news item comes into view, and what Trump does daily is so terrible, it DEMANDS attention.
If a voter sees and endless stream of accusations on Trump, and Trump is accusing everyone else... and NONE of the issues seems to stick around very long, people tune it out and believe what they want to believe.
Start listing ALL of Trump's crimes and other wrongs online, publicly, as the list grows. Put them into categories and provide evidence, with context.
It will become HUGE and a newsworthy event by itself, especially as it keeps growing. Make it easy to access (no paywall and no donation requests or ads) and as impartial and factual as possible. Trust me, that will be MORE effective than any emotional ranting when people come to look at it.
It not only makes the case that Trump is worse than just his latest newscycle, worse than just the economy (though that will be it's own category) and help people to see him for what he is rather than just the latest sound bite.
It will also act as the foundation for a strategy to make this next impeachment 'Stick'. Basically, charge him with ALL of his crimes, ALL of his abuses of power, ALL of his violations of oath, ALL of the various reasons declared constitutional for removing a president. Every last one of them. There are ways to make that type of impeachment stick, but not if we do it like we did before.
Thank you fir sharing this. I totally agree.
The support for the Israel war machine needs to be broken. If it takes some useful idiots like MTG and Carlsson to do it, where’s the fire?
I think people like Tucker, MTG and Megyn Kelly were seeing the rating on the wall and the collapse of MAGA. They’ve seen the end fighting among them. They wanna cultivate an audience. But here’s a thing about MTG, Trump made not so veiled death threats to her. She’s leaving the country or perhaps that’s what she’s saying. I believe that she’s telling the truth when she said Trump wants to do harm to her son. I think of the three of them MTG has the most sincerity and is not saying much.
They are all complicit. You can wear a cross or a plaid shirt to signal to your base that you are ‘one of them’ but as ever, follow the money. The fact though that a sitting president threatens death for disloyalty is a complete repudiation of the office.
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You too? I’ve got a list, but that’s at the top. Not that some silly numbers mean anything…
I will support AOC.
The only prodemocracy "purity" test should be: does this help re-establish democracy in America. Make the tent of prodemocracy voters "ginormous".
Maga isn't trustworthy
Very well thought out and an excellent piece. Gracias for adding it to today's Podcase.
The "cut a liberal and a fascist bleeds" crowd is oddly eager to support MGT despite the fact that she is a white-nationalist authoritarian; She was laughing in support during January 6th 2021 and probably wanted AOC to be lynched by delusional Q-Anoners. Populists seem to support ANYTHING no matter how flawed as long as it's allegedly anti-establishment. Yet AOC is also somewhat culpable as she has platformed Hasan Piker, one of said purity testing leftists, who has a long history of terrorist sympathies, autocrat defending, and libel (similar to Trump and his thralls).
republicans have to lose at all levels of government, local, state and federal!!!