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Trish's avatar
21hEdited

Don’t turn this into something it is not

Governor Walz has not ordered the National Guard to fight federal agents. He issued a standard standby/preparatory order—something governors of both parties routinely do when there is a risk of unrest, protests, or threats to public safety.

That is not rebellion.

That is governance.

Loved the thousands of people on the streets of Minneapolis last night peacefully demanding ice get the hell out. Todays crowd warms my heart it is huge and growing!!

Note: Trump wants to spend $100 Billion of OUR tax dollars on hiring 10,000 more ICE agents - we need millions to march in protest

I hate him, Milker, vance Noem, and the rest of these Natzi tactic pieces of …. so much I can’t properly express myself.

Where is the baseline of decency, morals, values

To listen to right wing media calling this young Christian woman calling her a Terrorist, act of domestic terrorism, paid by the larger left wing antifa - then JD said she was from a broader left wing network??? 😂😂😂. They are trying SO hard to make shit up -

Some will believe

Miller is a big architect of this.

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Angus Young's avatar

Slow but steady wins the race. This will stop. Unfortunately it takes time.

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Trish's avatar

Agree 100 - we the people ARE the key -

Be not afraid

Make calls to your legislators

Email your legislators

Get involved in your community

Each Rally must increase in size - peacefully!

We need more between now and midterms

They will ramp up their rhetoric, their threats and their political theater to try to paralyze the public.

Don’t buy-in

As a child, we all learned:

Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can never hurt me.

Continue to resist!!!! peacefully!!!

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David's avatar

Thank you for this Trish, common sense and logic are the keys!

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Robert Goldbach's avatar

Unless - Trump manages to impose martial law and suspend elections. Then all bets are off.

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Whatistobedone's avatar

Wish I shared your optimism....the DEADLY *FORCE" of the State....vs. us. How does change happen? They WILL MASSACRE us on the streets EVEN IF WE ARE NON VIOLENT. They WILL execute false flag violence. Then, we know they DISTORT REALITY, and blame us REGARDLESS.

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Trish's avatar
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That right there is buy-in to fear mongering -

We still have the constitution, real law enforcement, national guard and we outnumber them

Don’t let fear be your guide

Join your neighbors and RESIST

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Mary Calderon's avatar

Heather Cox Richardson said eloquently, paraphrased, that the civil war “ was revived, on January 6.

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Angus Young's avatar

Yes. I feel particularly sad about the 4 police officers that were severely disabled and committed suicide.

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Xplisset's avatar

David, with all due respect, the fact you are framing this as a “start” betrays your preference for clickbait over truth. Jan 6th unquestionably is the first shot if you want to start using the civil war as a context. Good’s death if anything is a turning point. Let’s give those people and officers who died defending the capitol that day the respect they deserve and acknowledge this as the battle that kicked off Civil War 2.0 or whatever name you want to call this thing we are in. I do agree yes this is a civil war no doubt and I wrote about where this event sits on the stage of history here https://www.xplisset.com/p/minneapolis-ice-shooting-payback?r=5z1bn1&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

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Xplisset's avatar

I feel you Angus and I didn’t intend to come off so confrontational with David, who I don’t agree with on everything, but still give him the benefit of the doubt for sticking his neck out there, but as a police officer who sat and watched helplessly (I was miles away) as those police officers got overwhelmed I can’t hold back from replying forcefully on this.

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Angus Young's avatar

God bless you. Thank you for your service to us. I'm glad that you are safe. Many times I don't agree with David as well 😉

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Xplisset's avatar

He changed the title. Ok. Count me in as a returning sub. Thanks David.

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Angus Young's avatar

I am so extremely saddened and horrified that after being so completely disabled by attackers on January 6, so far 4 officers involved have committed suicide.

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Paul Schwartz's avatar

Once Insurrection Act and canceling of elections I am afraid the gloves are off. There will be guerilla snipers in the streets picking off ICE Goons and Administration persons.

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Angus Young's avatar

Great!👍🏻... When?❤️👍🏻

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Bart R's avatar

This is the Republican Party they want the oligarchs to control this country and more

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Angus Young's avatar

Bart- they already DO control this country, and unfortunately my voted in Democrats, "ain't" doing "nuthin'".

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Deli Lanoux's avatar

Leonard Leo and his ilk come to mind as well.

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Michelle's avatar

Probably not Civil War yet, but definitely more civil action and protest. Training in mass for those protesting, actions at all level for everyone to partake.

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Angus Young's avatar

Absolutely correct 👍🏻

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MaryKay's avatar

So well stated David. Thank you for your observations on this critically important situation.

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ThisTooShallPass's avatar

“We are potentially looking at the Minnesota National Guard physically facing off against federal agents.

That’s not normal.”

It might not be normal, but it might be necessary, in order to protect the public safety in support of what the Constitution, the highest law in the land, clearly states:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

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Angus Young's avatar

Damn right, Thistooshallpass. A G R E E ❤️❤️❤️❤️👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

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Russ's avatar

Anyone thinking Gov Walz could deploy the MN National Guard to challenge ICE need to think again. This was tried before and backfired. Trump would love it and have NG supporting ICE. History from Wikipedia, quoted below.

When integration began on September 4, 1957, the Arkansas National Guard was called in to "preserve the peace". Originally at orders of the governor (George Wallace), they were meant to prevent the black students from entering due to claims that there was "imminent danger of tumult, riot and breach of peace" at the integration. However, President Eisenhower issued Executive Order 10730, which federalized the Arkansas National Guard and ordered them to support the integration on September 23 of that year, after which they protected the African American students.[4]

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Deli Lanoux's avatar

Oh, David. If we truly are approaching civil war, then Trump is ahead of the game already with his ICE gestapo. Never ever ever would I ever have imagined our wonderful nation devoured by EVIL at its worst. WHEN will this insanity end? WHO will intervene to stop Trump's regime? These are truly the Worst of Times for our country.

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Angus Young's avatar

My voted in Democrat officials have not done a thing....NADA, zero, zilch, nothing. Bunch of pussies. All TALK, no action. Shame shame shame on them.

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Deli Lanoux's avatar

Yes! I was exasperated from the get-go because they were stunned into submission. Their reaction time was "nada, zero, zilch, nothing. Shame, shame, shame on them." I raised my voice at the TV screen, computer monitor, tablet each time I turned on the news. Got so bad that I stopped watching legacy news altogether and focused only on independent media because they were actually doing something! Looking back, Dems were slow to react. They wanted to be nice and follow the rules. So wrong!!! I hated that!!! Then I began to hear Robert Garcia and others speak with power. Yay! We finally had folks on our side to take up the fight with animo. But, yes, Angus. Dems hesitated and lost momentum that can never be regained. Trump and his ilk have damaged sooo much that it's gonna take a long time to get back to a good place for the Collective We.

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Angus Young's avatar

Thank you Deli ❤️👍🏻. I was/am frustrated too. I hate waiting for action, but my Mom said "Slow and steady wins the race". So I am (trying) to be a little more patient. But TRUMPSTEIN is quickly moving to take over Canada, Greenland, Cuba, South America, Iran, Iraq, on and on and I fear the repercussions. This IS Hitler all over again.😮. I have a difficult time understanding why it has even progressed to this point. I'm VERY surprised that our country hasn't been bombed yet. I live in New Jersey a short way from New York City, and I'm extremely concerned about being bombed again like on 911.

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Deli Lanoux's avatar

Trump is an unchecked venereal disease that must be treated before it drives us all MAD.

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Deli Lanoux's avatar

Be well, be safe, Angus. And, above all, know that we are all in this together. Substack is a great place to hang out for moral support.

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Mark Scheithe's avatar

He's trying!

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Coop's avatar

Another 🇺🇸 civil war....?

While very sad, the rest of the planet can/will cope with that. Its when the Orange F**kgibbon starts wars all around the 🌎🌍🌏....

That's when it becomes doomsday!

End Times, anyone? 😪😢

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Virginia Jinny Fahey's avatar

David—You were born in Latin America. I think you were quite young when you came to the U.S. I think you have a “melting pot” mentality which to me says you left behind the authoritarian, Fascist govts of L.A. This is a very important part of becoming a USian. The same goes for Asian-Indian, African, & Eastern European people to do too. The U.S. will come to an end if we 1) Keep dividing ourselves & 2) Keep thinking we’re in charge of Mother Earth. I support Peace ☮️ and Love 💕. Shouldn’t it be the Department of Peace? T, SM, PH et al., are you paying attention?! Sincerely, Jinny Fahey

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Rich Grass's avatar

Convict Trump's regime has ignored court orders since he took office. Civil War is upon us. Strap up and be ready.

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Angus Young's avatar

And on top of that..... THE TRUMPSTEIN FILES

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Skepticat's avatar

APPROACHING? How about ENDURING?

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Faye Dudley's avatar

We’re hosed. And I’m ready.

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Angus Young's avatar

LOVE your comment ❤️❤️👍🏻

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