Richard - Yes. What's so very disturbing is that Congress is letting it happen! You know, they say you never really know a person's character until it is tested. I guess we know the character of the Republicans in Congress now! It's clear they never loved this country, its democracy, its Constitution, equality for all, freedom of speech, the press and all the other freedoms laid out in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights enough to stand up for them. It turns out they were ready and willing to sell us all down the river for money and power. And the rest of us, be damned. So disgusting.
Well, you know, Richard, there is no "them." There is only "us." But I'll make an exception for Trump and his evil toadies. They are definitely "them."
Let the lawsuits begin for defamation. He is on the hook for $88.3 million for the EJC defamation so what's a few more? Pelosi's husband should not let that slander stand without challenge.
What is his purpose in this display? With out any credibility to his assertions he's going full gang war fare on DC? If he's the lunatic. why do I feel like I'm in the asylum?
I hear you, JP. This is a case of the lunatics running the asylum, and if someone/something doesn't stop Trump soon, we are all going off the cliff. :(
More deflection away from Epstein Epstein Epstein! Remember, he lies about everything. Therefore he did not pass any cognitive test. Probably didn’t take one. And saying that about Nancy Pelosi means he’s talking about himself. Anyone with that much brain decay should be legally removed from office - especially before he totally destroys the nation.
I so totally agree with you. I wish someone would propose using the 25th amendment to do just that, but we know the Republicans would stop it. They are more than useless, they are craven pigs.
Those in power, who stand by in the face of evil and let it pass are as guilty as the one who does the evil. Hitlers lieutenants at Nuremburg said they were just following orders. I highly suspect the Repub senators and reps are just following orders as well. There will be hell to play when the Dems come back into power, so Repugs you may want to clean up your act while you can.
My biggest fear is our two houses of congress main business will be investigating each other instead of solving our problems. That and spending money they do not have for pie in the sky issues instead of the here and now.
I love Warren Buffets take on govt. If they do not balance the budget they will be ineligible for re-election. All congress people need to be held to some measurable standard. One of which you get 2 terms and you are gone. No more homesteading in congress. Also age limits, no more dinosaurs. 65 and you live like the rest of us.
My thoughts exactly. Everything he says about others says more about him. Maybe he has a conscience, and this is his way of letting it out. Michael Jacksons song, "The Man in the Mirror" must have been written for him. Check out the words.
I believe Donald Trump sees himself to be small in direct proportion to his self-aggrandizement. So when he calls Nancy Pelosi a ““disgusting degenerate,” I believe he is projecting his own opinion of himself onto her. That’s his opinion of himself. That’s how it looks to me.
I wish someone would suggest using the ICE agents as pickers for strawberries tomatoes and other crops as they deplete the workforce through their arrests.
David - All of this is incredibly disturbing. This is an all-hands-on-deck moment. I fear if we don't do something drastic - marching and protesting every day, doing sit-ins at the offices of our senators and representatives, now that they're home from D.C., holding boycotts, national strikes, etc. that the moment will be gone and we will be left living in a dictatorship, without rights, without our democracy. And how are those impeachment balloons going? Or invoking the 25th amendment? The next election is too far away, and Trump and his goons are plotting to disrupt/rig it anyway. Time to start a novena, for sure. :(
Of all the things I could say about this guy… Or I should say of all the things that I have said about this guy… I’m still not finished…!!! a good majority of the people who are homeless are veterans much to my chagrin. VA doesn’t take care of them. No one wants them around. My dad was a Marine for 30 years; both of my sons went into the Air Force, one retired. I have many uncles and cousins who were in the military, but whether these homeless people were in the military or not, I am beyond (meaning way over the top) any bad thoughts or feelings I ever had about that dude in the White House and his coward cronies. Something‘s gotta give!! I’m 73 years old, but if you’ll go out on the streets with me, I’ll certainly go out there with you! Sure, we’re taking our lives into our own hands, but is it worth it to save our country and its democracy???!!! Please say it is!! Now admittedly, I do think that some of these terrible things happening are God‘s judgment on this country because of rampant sin, and I include myself in that. I know the Bible says that unless we humble ourselves and pray and seek God‘s face and turn from our wicked ways, THEN he will hear from heaven and heal our land. Are you willing to do that? Most people aren’t. In any case, I’m praying so much for our country, it’s leaders to have more bold courage, and brains to know and do right from wrong in regards to our country’s people, and I pray the Lord sees from heaven and heals our land.
None of this is God's judgment on us, but it is the results of following a false Messiah and worshipping the golden calf. We were making our country better and safer for all people until Trump. But, many people love to hate. That's a sin too.
Hate is certainly a sin! It goes against the second commandment… Love thy neighbor as thyself. I wish everyone would dig into Revelation and try to understand it. Actually, there are some really good shows on Netflix that teach a lot of this stuff. Not all of it is factual… But they definitely try to follow along with the Bible.
You’ll never convince me that some of this isn’t God‘s judgment… I forget how many millions of babies are slaughtered every year while still in the womb, and that’s only one of the many things I can think about that the Lord would be judging us over. I’m sure you’ll have plenty to say about that, but frankly, I won’t change my mind.
Bringing millions of babies into the world, many of which will not be loved nor cared for is not God's will? We have 500,000 kids in foster care now and probably millions in destitute situations. Add homeless, growing crime and drugs and you want to add to that in the name of love? Many of those babies will be to single mothers who cannot care for them, just struggling to eat. Look at Africa, you want us to be that way?
Abortion is wrong. Abortion is sin. Abortion is murder. Plain and simple. This world is so full of sin now and you certainly can’t blame the Lord since he gave us all a free will and choices to make. If we don’t have faith in him, then who do we have faith in? Every single thing that happens is God‘s plan for us. Every word that proceeds out of our mouth we are accountable for. This is what I believe, and debating with me will not change what I believe. God‘s Word stands. Period.
The bigger sin is bringing children into the world that are not wanted, not loved and not cared for. Those children are headed for a life of povery, crime and jail. The responsibility of the unwanted falls on women also unsupported. So let them put the kid up for adoption? There are 500,000 kids in foster care now. Is that God's will? Easy to say it is a women's choosing? Man gets to run. If men bore children, abortion would be the first ammendment to the constitution.
If God is so smart and all powerful and it is his will in everything, how come he does not use it? He wills crime and murder, seriously? All pre-planned so we cannot help ourselves? Whatever happened to the loving God? Oh that is only when things go right. When not, the devil made you do it.
So it is okay for men to have the right to guns that kill, but a woman has no rights?
I understand that, and my heart breaks for them sincerely, but murder is still murder. Those babies have rights also. They have the right to live…. Let God take care of the rest.
The problem with saying that something is God's judgment is that we have no way of knowing who is being punished or why. Is God punishing us because we allow abortions? Or is God punishing us because we do not teach our children how to make love without conceiving a child? Is God punishing us because we allow greedy corporations to make obscene profits while people are starving in the street? Or is God punishing us because we eat pork and shellfish? We don't know.
At the end of the book of Job (starting in chapter 38), God explains to Job that there are a whole bunch of processes going on in the universe that we have no understanding of (which is true to this day, and we understand the Universe a lot better than whoever wrote Job did), and it is not for us to try to figure out God's will.
When God chooses to act, God usually does so in clear and unambiguous ways: destroying Sodom and Gomorrah with fire and brimstone, parting the Red Sea, stopping the sun in the sky, causing the earth to open up under insurgents, providing a fish to swallow somebody whole, causing a worm to kill a gourd..... And then you have the books of Ezra, Nehemiah, and Esther, which do not mention God at all.
So the idea that a given event, which is not supernatural, is not a compelling idea when there are competing ideas that explain the event.
Now, I happen to believe in an omniscient, omnipotent god. The more I study the universe, the more in awe I am of it. But if free will has any meaning, then God's approach to running the universe, which appears to me to be "hands off", is the right way to go. That means we humans cannot shrug and say, "This is God's will", but rather we must act.
ALL of that! Listen, it sounds like you don’t really understand the scripture that you’re reading. First off, Job may have written the book, but it was inspired by God. There are 40 people who wrote the Bible, but it is totally God inspired. You have to understand and believe that before you can base anything off of Scripture. But I’m not going to get into any debate with you about the Bible. The Bible stands by itself. The Bible is truth. The Bible is God’s word… Totally.
Here’s what I believe, Jeff. Read your Bible. Read it from beginning to end. All the answers to our future, our past, our present, are all there in God’s Word. Then you might say, well, it’s in how we translate it. That’s why it’s important to read his word in context. Don’t just read one verse and try to explain it away. Read the entire chapter, or perhaps even the entire book. If you want real prophecy, you can go to the book of Daniel or Revelation and get answers you may not have realized or understood until you’ve prayed and asked the Lord to reveal the truth to you as you read his word. He wants you to know the truth! He wants us all to know the truth! We can sit here rationalizing things all day long as far as abortion goes… It’s murder of the unborn. Then there is the argument….well, it’s just a fetus. God‘s word says he knows you from the moment of your conception. Anyway, as I said, I don’t know all the answers, but I do understand the Lord‘s word. Even having gone to Bible university I still don’t have all the answers, but I do know that I don’t need to argue the word of God because it is truth to the utmost and there’s no point in arguing about it. I appreciate your thoughts and your ideas.
I have read the tanach, what you call the old testament, twice. The first time, the JPS 1917 translation and the second time Fox translation with an assist from sefaria.org for commentaries.
I also have a degree in physics.
So I have come to have several understandings of how our universe operates. I can appreciate God's genius in all kinds of things that really don't make sense. For example, the ratio of the rest mass of a proton to the rest mass of an electron is 1836.152673426(32). First, this is a strange number. Second, it is known to an accuracy of 1.7E-11. But ratio of the charges of each particle is exactly the same, with an accuracy of 1.0E-21. How can that be? It makes no sense! Yet it is so.
Nowhere in the Tanach does it mention anything about God knowing a fetus. That is a human invention, an interpretation. By way of contrast, the bible is quite explicit that one is not to eat swine or shellfish.
There is every point in arguing about the bible. The Talmud is a record of rabbis arguing every little point in the Bible, spanning roughly a thousand years. Then, when the Talmuds were finished (there are two of them, the Jerusalem Talmud, which was actually written in Tsfat, and the Babylonian Talmud, which was written in Iraq), there was a new need for interpretation. Throughout the Middle Ages, the great scholars argued over the meaning of the law and how to apply it. To this day, rabbis and scholars and lay people argue over the meaning of the bible.
Three of the reasons why Jews generally do not argue the bible with non-Jews is that
1) We'd win. Every. Single. Time. Because Jews argue over the bible since childhood. It's the secret of our survival, no, our endurance after centuries of lethal persecution. At the hands of "loving" Christians, I might add.
2) Christians involved in such arguments invariably quote from the New Testament, which Jews do not recognize as authoritative. It's hard to argue with somebody when there is fundamental disagreement about what is fact.
3) Christian salvation is based on faith. Destroy the faith, destroy salvation. I personally have debated a half dozen missionaries into tears or other anguish by demonstrating the logical inconsistency of Christianity. I have decided that I don't like doing that. So I don't do it anymore.
I have a BRE degree…Batchelor of Religious Education. The Lord knows you from the moment you are conceived. It’s biblical. Do some research. That’s all I’ll say…. I’m not going to argue what I know is factual from the Bible. There’s no argument to it… There’s no disagreement to it.
How very Presidential, he is destroying our country and Congress is letting it happen!
Richard - Yes. What's so very disturbing is that Congress is letting it happen! You know, they say you never really know a person's character until it is tested. I guess we know the character of the Republicans in Congress now! It's clear they never loved this country, its democracy, its Constitution, equality for all, freedom of speech, the press and all the other freedoms laid out in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights enough to stand up for them. It turns out they were ready and willing to sell us all down the river for money and power. And the rest of us, be damned. So disgusting.
We have become a country of them and us. A house divided shall not stand.
Well, you know, Richard, there is no "them." There is only "us." But I'll make an exception for Trump and his evil toadies. They are definitely "them."
Republicans are afraid he will hurt their feelings.
Not sure you said that right. Repubs want him to hurt the other side.
What is wrong with this fool? No words can describe his lack of reasoning!
No words can describe his ignorance.
So true and I typically have a ton to say!
All bad things he does are intentional.
He’s an extremely insecure man.
…and cold hearted! Karma! Where are you??
Yes never soon enough.
So he passed a cognitive test like he plays golf?
So odd that he makes these claims but offers no proof. Actually, that's normal for him.
Par for the course, yes.
Trump is desperately trying to distract from the Epstein files fiasco. "Look over here, not there! Pelosi, Obama, and Biden, O my!!"
Let the lawsuits begin for defamation. He is on the hook for $88.3 million for the EJC defamation so what's a few more? Pelosi's husband should not let that slander stand without challenge.
What is his purpose in this display? With out any credibility to his assertions he's going full gang war fare on DC? If he's the lunatic. why do I feel like I'm in the asylum?
I hear you, JP. This is a case of the lunatics running the asylum, and if someone/something doesn't stop Trump soon, we are all going off the cliff. :(
And would some little place in Florida? Maybe a new place that carries the name Alligator Alcatraz?
We are surrounded by the crazies, that's why. Everyday it's some new, insane BS.
I’m freaking out
More deflection away from Epstein Epstein Epstein! Remember, he lies about everything. Therefore he did not pass any cognitive test. Probably didn’t take one. And saying that about Nancy Pelosi means he’s talking about himself. Anyone with that much brain decay should be legally removed from office - especially before he totally destroys the nation.
I so totally agree with you. I wish someone would propose using the 25th amendment to do just that, but we know the Republicans would stop it. They are more than useless, they are craven pigs.
Those in power, who stand by in the face of evil and let it pass are as guilty as the one who does the evil. Hitlers lieutenants at Nuremburg said they were just following orders. I highly suspect the Repub senators and reps are just following orders as well. There will be hell to play when the Dems come back into power, so Repugs you may want to clean up your act while you can.
You are right. And their time to be held to account cannot come soon enough.
My biggest fear is our two houses of congress main business will be investigating each other instead of solving our problems. That and spending money they do not have for pie in the sky issues instead of the here and now.
I love Warren Buffets take on govt. If they do not balance the budget they will be ineligible for re-election. All congress people need to be held to some measurable standard. One of which you get 2 terms and you are gone. No more homesteading in congress. Also age limits, no more dinosaurs. 65 and you live like the rest of us.
My thoughts exactly. Everything he says about others says more about him. Maybe he has a conscience, and this is his way of letting it out. Michael Jacksons song, "The Man in the Mirror" must have been written for him. Check out the words.
https://genius.com/Michael-jackson-man-in-the-mirror-lyrics
You and me, both, Dorothy. Worse than we could have possibly imagined.
Keep your head on, it gets worse. The object is to drive everyone else crazy, which then reduces the sanity of arguments against him.
I keep the poem "IF" by Rudyard Kipling close to my desk. It bears reading at times like this. https://poets.org/poem/if
It’s not MAGA it’s MAHA for Make America Hate Again!
I believe Donald Trump sees himself to be small in direct proportion to his self-aggrandizement. So when he calls Nancy Pelosi a ““disgusting degenerate,” I believe he is projecting his own opinion of himself onto her. That’s his opinion of himself. That’s how it looks to me.
I think you are right, William.
I wish someone would suggest using the ICE agents as pickers for strawberries tomatoes and other crops as they deplete the workforce through their arrests.
Great reporting David💙💙💙💙!!
David - All of this is incredibly disturbing. This is an all-hands-on-deck moment. I fear if we don't do something drastic - marching and protesting every day, doing sit-ins at the offices of our senators and representatives, now that they're home from D.C., holding boycotts, national strikes, etc. that the moment will be gone and we will be left living in a dictatorship, without rights, without our democracy. And how are those impeachment balloons going? Or invoking the 25th amendment? The next election is too far away, and Trump and his goons are plotting to disrupt/rig it anyway. Time to start a novena, for sure. :(
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The military has an oath to WE THE PEOPLE not the loser clown.
Yes, definitely, and I'm surprised more military are not disobeying his ridiculous and dangerous commands.
But Hegseth is in charge of the military so they're not going to help We the People. Sadly.
Very sadly, Patricia. :(
I am too, Cynthia. I am too.
Don't hold your breath, ICE does whatever he tells them too.
He cannot control the entire country, so he’s doing it there. What a weak move, anything to appear strong and Epstein who? 🙄
Of all the things I could say about this guy… Or I should say of all the things that I have said about this guy… I’m still not finished…!!! a good majority of the people who are homeless are veterans much to my chagrin. VA doesn’t take care of them. No one wants them around. My dad was a Marine for 30 years; both of my sons went into the Air Force, one retired. I have many uncles and cousins who were in the military, but whether these homeless people were in the military or not, I am beyond (meaning way over the top) any bad thoughts or feelings I ever had about that dude in the White House and his coward cronies. Something‘s gotta give!! I’m 73 years old, but if you’ll go out on the streets with me, I’ll certainly go out there with you! Sure, we’re taking our lives into our own hands, but is it worth it to save our country and its democracy???!!! Please say it is!! Now admittedly, I do think that some of these terrible things happening are God‘s judgment on this country because of rampant sin, and I include myself in that. I know the Bible says that unless we humble ourselves and pray and seek God‘s face and turn from our wicked ways, THEN he will hear from heaven and heal our land. Are you willing to do that? Most people aren’t. In any case, I’m praying so much for our country, it’s leaders to have more bold courage, and brains to know and do right from wrong in regards to our country’s people, and I pray the Lord sees from heaven and heals our land.
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None of this is God's judgment on us, but it is the results of following a false Messiah and worshipping the golden calf. We were making our country better and safer for all people until Trump. But, many people love to hate. That's a sin too.
You’re ohhh so wrong…
Hate is certainly a sin! It goes against the second commandment… Love thy neighbor as thyself. I wish everyone would dig into Revelation and try to understand it. Actually, there are some really good shows on Netflix that teach a lot of this stuff. Not all of it is factual… But they definitely try to follow along with the Bible.
You’ll never convince me that some of this isn’t God‘s judgment… I forget how many millions of babies are slaughtered every year while still in the womb, and that’s only one of the many things I can think about that the Lord would be judging us over. I’m sure you’ll have plenty to say about that, but frankly, I won’t change my mind.
With love comes responsibility.
Bringing millions of babies into the world, many of which will not be loved nor cared for is not God's will? We have 500,000 kids in foster care now and probably millions in destitute situations. Add homeless, growing crime and drugs and you want to add to that in the name of love? Many of those babies will be to single mothers who cannot care for them, just struggling to eat. Look at Africa, you want us to be that way?
Abortion is wrong. Abortion is sin. Abortion is murder. Plain and simple. This world is so full of sin now and you certainly can’t blame the Lord since he gave us all a free will and choices to make. If we don’t have faith in him, then who do we have faith in? Every single thing that happens is God‘s plan for us. Every word that proceeds out of our mouth we are accountable for. This is what I believe, and debating with me will not change what I believe. God‘s Word stands. Period.
The bigger sin is bringing children into the world that are not wanted, not loved and not cared for. Those children are headed for a life of povery, crime and jail. The responsibility of the unwanted falls on women also unsupported. So let them put the kid up for adoption? There are 500,000 kids in foster care now. Is that God's will? Easy to say it is a women's choosing? Man gets to run. If men bore children, abortion would be the first ammendment to the constitution.
If God is so smart and all powerful and it is his will in everything, how come he does not use it? He wills crime and murder, seriously? All pre-planned so we cannot help ourselves? Whatever happened to the loving God? Oh that is only when things go right. When not, the devil made you do it.
So it is okay for men to have the right to guns that kill, but a woman has no rights?
I understand that, and my heart breaks for them sincerely, but murder is still murder. Those babies have rights also. They have the right to live…. Let God take care of the rest.
The problem with saying that something is God's judgment is that we have no way of knowing who is being punished or why. Is God punishing us because we allow abortions? Or is God punishing us because we do not teach our children how to make love without conceiving a child? Is God punishing us because we allow greedy corporations to make obscene profits while people are starving in the street? Or is God punishing us because we eat pork and shellfish? We don't know.
At the end of the book of Job (starting in chapter 38), God explains to Job that there are a whole bunch of processes going on in the universe that we have no understanding of (which is true to this day, and we understand the Universe a lot better than whoever wrote Job did), and it is not for us to try to figure out God's will.
When God chooses to act, God usually does so in clear and unambiguous ways: destroying Sodom and Gomorrah with fire and brimstone, parting the Red Sea, stopping the sun in the sky, causing the earth to open up under insurgents, providing a fish to swallow somebody whole, causing a worm to kill a gourd..... And then you have the books of Ezra, Nehemiah, and Esther, which do not mention God at all.
So the idea that a given event, which is not supernatural, is not a compelling idea when there are competing ideas that explain the event.
Now, I happen to believe in an omniscient, omnipotent god. The more I study the universe, the more in awe I am of it. But if free will has any meaning, then God's approach to running the universe, which appears to me to be "hands off", is the right way to go. That means we humans cannot shrug and say, "This is God's will", but rather we must act.
ALL of that! Listen, it sounds like you don’t really understand the scripture that you’re reading. First off, Job may have written the book, but it was inspired by God. There are 40 people who wrote the Bible, but it is totally God inspired. You have to understand and believe that before you can base anything off of Scripture. But I’m not going to get into any debate with you about the Bible. The Bible stands by itself. The Bible is truth. The Bible is God’s word… Totally.
Here’s what I believe, Jeff. Read your Bible. Read it from beginning to end. All the answers to our future, our past, our present, are all there in God’s Word. Then you might say, well, it’s in how we translate it. That’s why it’s important to read his word in context. Don’t just read one verse and try to explain it away. Read the entire chapter, or perhaps even the entire book. If you want real prophecy, you can go to the book of Daniel or Revelation and get answers you may not have realized or understood until you’ve prayed and asked the Lord to reveal the truth to you as you read his word. He wants you to know the truth! He wants us all to know the truth! We can sit here rationalizing things all day long as far as abortion goes… It’s murder of the unborn. Then there is the argument….well, it’s just a fetus. God‘s word says he knows you from the moment of your conception. Anyway, as I said, I don’t know all the answers, but I do understand the Lord‘s word. Even having gone to Bible university I still don’t have all the answers, but I do know that I don’t need to argue the word of God because it is truth to the utmost and there’s no point in arguing about it. I appreciate your thoughts and your ideas.
I have read the tanach, what you call the old testament, twice. The first time, the JPS 1917 translation and the second time Fox translation with an assist from sefaria.org for commentaries.
I also have a degree in physics.
So I have come to have several understandings of how our universe operates. I can appreciate God's genius in all kinds of things that really don't make sense. For example, the ratio of the rest mass of a proton to the rest mass of an electron is 1836.152673426(32). First, this is a strange number. Second, it is known to an accuracy of 1.7E-11. But ratio of the charges of each particle is exactly the same, with an accuracy of 1.0E-21. How can that be? It makes no sense! Yet it is so.
Nowhere in the Tanach does it mention anything about God knowing a fetus. That is a human invention, an interpretation. By way of contrast, the bible is quite explicit that one is not to eat swine or shellfish.
There is every point in arguing about the bible. The Talmud is a record of rabbis arguing every little point in the Bible, spanning roughly a thousand years. Then, when the Talmuds were finished (there are two of them, the Jerusalem Talmud, which was actually written in Tsfat, and the Babylonian Talmud, which was written in Iraq), there was a new need for interpretation. Throughout the Middle Ages, the great scholars argued over the meaning of the law and how to apply it. To this day, rabbis and scholars and lay people argue over the meaning of the bible.
Three of the reasons why Jews generally do not argue the bible with non-Jews is that
1) We'd win. Every. Single. Time. Because Jews argue over the bible since childhood. It's the secret of our survival, no, our endurance after centuries of lethal persecution. At the hands of "loving" Christians, I might add.
2) Christians involved in such arguments invariably quote from the New Testament, which Jews do not recognize as authoritative. It's hard to argue with somebody when there is fundamental disagreement about what is fact.
3) Christian salvation is based on faith. Destroy the faith, destroy salvation. I personally have debated a half dozen missionaries into tears or other anguish by demonstrating the logical inconsistency of Christianity. I have decided that I don't like doing that. So I don't do it anymore.
I wish you well.
I have a BRE degree…Batchelor of Religious Education. The Lord knows you from the moment you are conceived. It’s biblical. Do some research. That’s all I’ll say…. I’m not going to argue what I know is factual from the Bible. There’s no argument to it… There’s no disagreement to it.
This was how it was going to be! We, I, felt this dread the evening of the election. What's going on right now, yep, we saw this coming!
Passed a cognitive test? Bullshit. He can't even drink water from a glass!